Ringo-you are my friend, but you know in the years we have played together I have ALWAYS played these hands this way-my win lose record is good. I have always played very aggresive and follow my guts on folding, calling or raising with hands that work for me. Alot depends on the other players also. I am sorry it bothers you this way. Maybe my game play is not the kind needed at these games. I apologize.