CBG Poker Club

[freeringo]

Ill play something, if im not busy, or making love to a man.

you must mean To THE man

[datsme53]

datsme53 is my username for Poker Stars

I hear someone say that online poker is rigged. LOL! There is no basis for that at all...and no proof of it whatsoever. You want to say it is rigged? Prove it with hand histories etc.. not blind accusations. Why would a poker site rig anything? They have no vested interest in who wins ANY given pot or tourney. They make money by hosting the games. Why would they do ANYTHING that would destroy their business? My advice to ANYONE who thinks online poker is rigged in any way... DON'T PLAY! If you think it is rigged and play anyway....play money or real money... who is the fool?

[eejit101]

datsme53 is my username for Poker Stars

I hear someone say that online poker is rigged. LOL! There is no basis for that at all...and no proof of it whatsoever. You want to say it is rigged? Prove it with hand histories etc.. not blind accusations. Why would a poker site rig anything? They have no vested interest in who wins ANY given pot or tourney. They make money by hosting the games. Why would they do ANYTHING that would destroy their business? My advice to ANYONE who thinks online poker is rigged in any way... DON'T PLAY! If you think it is rigged and play anyway....play money or real money... who is the fool?

Welcome to the forum!!!

FYI - Online poker is rigged. Well, it is for me in tournaments! Though i fully believe PokerStars pro's get a decent edge. Ill fidn the hand history for you. Youll be on my side bro!

[freeringo]

rigged = situation algarythms to protect against cheating

[BruceJ]

TheTaker 49

[CBG]

Even if some or all poker sites are "rigged" for action, you have to remember that it's not really an advantage or disadvantage because it is done so constantly. I don't think there is a poker elf sitting around scratching his head wondering if he should throttle up the "more action flops" button on a day-by-day basis.

I'm not saying that's acceptable if it's happening (and I lean towards believing that it is based on my own experiences), but I'm still comfortable playing online at reasonable stakes because I don't believe anyone can use the "rigged" system to their advantage (bots that have been busted over the years are a whole different story). I've been playing since they first started offering it online and over the years I haven't been able to modify my game to accommodate for the "mega action" system that seems to be in place, and if I can't do it with all the poker I've played, I don't believe anyone else can (or at least the vast majority).

I often wonder what poker will be like when it's officially regulated, but the fact of the matter is, most of the big US companies are in talks or have already partnered up with existing software companies, which means we'll see a whole lot of the exact same thing. Hopefully we'll have some mathematical geniuses who are poker players themselves auditing the software in an official capacity once regulation is in place.

I've tried and failed miserably to play profitable poker online over the years, but I still get some enjoyment value out of it, so I'm content with that for now, at least until we have regulated options.

I think what it all boils down to is self-discipline. I mean, I can sit in a live game and happily play my one hand every hour or even every two, but it's extremely difficult for me to exercise that same kind of control when playing online. But then again, online poker is a whole different breed of poker and it's not meant to be played (nor are the "norms" supposed to be the same) as live poker.

[freeringo]

Even if some or all poker sites are "rigged" for action, you have to remember that it's not really an advantage or disadvantage because it is done so constantly. I don't think there is a poker elf sitting around scratching his head wondering if he should throttle up the "more action flops" button on a day-by-day basis.

I'm not saying that's acceptable if it's happening (and I lean towards believing that it is based on my own experiences), but I'm still comfortable playing online at reasonable stakes because I don't believe anyone can use the "rigged" system to their advantage (bots that have been busted over the years are a whole different story). I've been playing since they first started offering it online and over the years I haven't been able to modify my game to accommodate for the "mega action" system that seems to be in place, and if I can't do it with all the poker I've played, I don't believe anyone else can (or at least the vast majority).

I often wonder what poker will be like when it's officially regulated, but the fact of the matter is, most of the big US companies are in talks or have already partnered up with existing software companies, which means we'll see a whole lot of the exact same thing. Hopefully we'll have some mathematical geniuses who are poker players themselves auditing the software in an official capacity once regulation is in place.

I've tried and failed miserably to play profitable poker online over the years, but I still get some enjoyment value out of it, so I'm content with that for now, at least until we have regulated options.

I think what it all boils down to is self-discipline. I mean, I can sit in a live game and happily play my one hand every hour or even every two, but it's extremely difficult for me to exercise that same kind of control when playing online. But then again, online poker is a whole different breed of poker and it's not meant to be played (nor are the "norms" supposed to be the same) as live poker.

you need to read my book

[tjntaco]

IDK. Personally, I don't think the sites are rigged. I don't see the incentive. Casinos? Yes. Poker rooms? Why? They make a few cents of every hand but when they deal a BILLION hands they're doing ok. And if someone proved that the cards weren't random that would all go away. Not worth it.

I know that PEOPLE cheat. I could easily see a table with everyone sharing hands on cell phones except for the mark. And maybe I'm just being naive, but I think the rooms themselves are on the up and up.

And Eejit, RE your hand with Moneymaker, it's only natural to think something's up there but how many times has that exact same thing happened in a live game? Thousands. I know I'll never forget when I had pocket aces with an ace and 2 kings on the board and the guy next to me had pocket kings. That was a live game and about a $300 pot in a $20 game. Lol. Stuff occurs. That's poker.

I think what you guys need to focus on is how to stop me from winning every Amazon card that comes across the table.

This should be big fun. I'm looking forward to it.

[AKAworceracs]

it would be easy to rig a system to work out mathematicly w the odds, but to maximize profit in rake by keeping the money on the site as much as possible... and there would be no way to prove it... saying the sites dont want to make more and more money, is like saying peyton manning makes 20 mil a yr, why would he risk looking bad to leave the team and go to the cowboys for 25 mil a year


Stars in my view my be the exception, im sure when they first started out they were in it to maximize profit and might have done some things to the software etc...

but I think once they were so successful, making millions on millions, and pretty much became the namesake of the buisness and they might have seen a long term future and decided that longterm viability was much more profitable for them then maximizing quarterly profit...

I cant attest to the pros having an advantage, but it wouldnt shock me...

I stopped playing online cash games, as to me this would be where u would most likely get screwed from some kind of "heater recognize and level out program" I only play tournaments now, since its a set buy-in and u would figure the site would have no interest in who wins... unless of course they give advantage to pros, site bots, or people whos pattern suggest they will keep the $ on the site and play with it opposed to withdrawing it.

[CBG]

you need to read my book

Would love to, but you left a lot to be desired with regards to why I need to read your book.

[PANAMHIEST]

hey yall im in for a game with all the old buds! I am lafate27 on pokerstars

[freeringo]

hey yall im in for a game with all the old buds! I am lafate27 on pokerstars

it was you U I beat OH MAN I enjoyed that
and now even more

Good Game

[CBG]

Congrats to Freeringo on winning tonight's game! Thanks to everyone that played and we'll see you again on Thursday!

[CBG]

Thanks to those who showed up today.

Unfortunately we had a ton of people sitting out and it screwed up the game, but I'll try to curb that from now on.

For all future games, if you register and sit out, I will remove you from the poker club.

Please only register if you plan to play.

[freeringo]

Thanks to those who showed up today.

Unfortunately we had a ton of people sitting out and it screwed up the game, but I'll try to curb that from now on.

For all future games, if you register and sit out, I will remove you from the poker club.

Please only register if you plan to play.

NO NO NO NO NO NO YOU DON'T OPEN THAT CAN OF WORMS

rethink it

[CBG]

NO NO NO NO NO NO YOU DON'T OPEN THAT CAN OF WORMS

rethink it

There's nothing to think about.

If you're going to play; register.

If you're not going to play; don't.

[freeringo]

I regester days in advance and can easily forget and would hate to lose my league status for that

The solution is have registration only 2 hours before game

[CBG]

We have added a new weekly tournament that will be held each Wednesday at 9:00 PM ET.

[eejit101]

Wtf. surely friday or saturday would make sense?

Stop making games I can never play in

[freeringo]

game this morning and I am only one signed up so far

[freeringo]

For those who got cut from the club, pm CBG and ask to be reinstated

[CBG]

We have added a new weekly game. This game will be on Monday at 5:00 PM ET.

[quintas]

My PokerStars player name is: quintass

thanks!

[freeringo]

Winning totals as of 2/21/12

Eejit 0
mikejjc 1
RGChan 3
Pokerkitty 2
Catlicker 2
Scarecrow 2 aka: Easymoney
Breadstik 2
BruceJ 2
Tomturkey 1
Taco ?
Panam ?
Freeringo 14

I am ashamed

[freeringo]

Winning totals as of 2/22/12

Eejit 0
mikejjc 1
RGChan 4
Pokerkitty 2
Catlicker 2
Scarecrow 2 aka: Easymoney
Breadstik 2
BruceJ 2
Tomturkey 1
Taco ?
Panam ?
Freeringo 14

since I have won the most games I guess that makes me qualified to critic everyones game.

Mikejjc - unknown
Eejit - played only once and he took me out early, have had a history and he has enjoyed the upper hand HU against me< I am still waiting for the cupid arrow to get out of his eyes so I can seek some revenge
RGChan - grinder, was pretty predictable early on but has changed up his game nicely last 2 weeks and has got me guessing half the time now
Pokerkitty - rarely trys to buy a pot but loves to stay in a hand, she makes very quick decisions that keeps us off guard most of the time. Hard to put her on a hand until the blinds get to 300 then she plays a bit too conservative, solid game non the less and one person who seems to have my number
Catlicker - brave game and am still watching closely
Scarecrow/Easymoney- loves to gamble, patience is not a strong suit, love sitting behind him and not in front
Breadstck- I haven't played enough to comment yet
BruceJ- loves to mix it up early and starts to play better when blinds get 200 plus, I like his style a little bit but he takes too many chances early, like to see 10 more folds in the first 50 hands, love to set him up if I can around the 100 blind level
TomTurkey - needs to play more but I have had a long history with Tom, very patient player, maybe too patient sometimes, solid game, I don't like to mix it up with Tom, not 1 of my target players at all
Panamheist - needs to play more and is fun to play with
SJtaco - not enough history to comment

OK since I have won too many games, I will tell you all my secrets and see if it helps any of you beat me more often.

Freeringo - changes style of play constantly, NO FEAR 98% of the time, sometimes I play too passive and I can't seem to get out of it, when I go all in more than 3 times in a row means I am in a hurry to go somewhere and if you fold I might have to leave, I am very shy about playing small pocket pairs,
I will call an all in from a short stack most of the time with any 2 cards especially when conditions are right, I keep an eye on my stats during game and I know if I win too many hands in a short time that the algorythms will set me up soon if I play a pushy game, I also believe that if I fold a larger percent of hands that good luck usally will reward me soon following, I also believe that the algorythms favor the BB and I hate to fold BB. Last but not least I try to avoid three way hands as much as possible. example: is I have AJs in small blind and 2 people raise in front I will fold, but if 1 person raises I wil call.
75% of the decisions I make in poker depend on what everyone else is doing and what position I am in, I never play 2 cards the same. Did I mention that
I am one of the luckiest people on Earth? LOL

Hope that helped
Please feel free to add any comments but please be kind